I am focusing on logic and reason rather than linguistics (i.e. language, grammar and syntax) and translation/transliteration errors to highlight and expose the problems associated with the trinity doctrine; which proclaims that Yahshua Messiah is both fully human and fully divine.
In this study, I will use the personal names Yahweh and Yahshua, which are the personal Hebrew names of the God of Israel and the Messiah respectively.
FACT 1: Trinitarians reject the one true God of Israel that is clearly identified multiple times in the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament). The one true God of Israel identified Himself to Moses in Exodus 3:15 by His personal name YAHWEH. In Isaiah 44:6 Yahweh said unequivocally "besides ME there are NO other gods." But rather than using the personal name Yahweh, Trinitarians use generic titles like "Lord" and "God'" to help them cloak their multi-person god. Trinitarians use generic titles because using the personal name Yahweh would limit the identity of the one true God of Israel as a single personal being. Using the personal name Yahweh instead of generic titles exposes the multi-person god of the Trinity doctrine as a lie.
FACT 2: Trinitarians abandoned the biblical monotheistic faith of Yahweh's chosen people and His son Yahshua Messiah and embraced a "three-person" god-squad which they identify as a "substance" rather than the one true God Yahweh. The god-squad of their trinity doctrine is identified as God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Trinitarians believe the first person of this god-squad is "God the Father," who they mistakenly refer to by name as Lord or God. As stated in Fact 1, trinitarians use the titles Lord and God to keep their lie from being exposed because the Hebrew Scriptures clearly state dozens of times that Yahweh alone is the one true God. The second person is "God the Son," who they refer to by name as Jesus, and by titles such as Christ or Lord. And the third person is "God the Holy Spirit," who they can only refer to as the Holy Spirit because trinitarians don't have a name for this "person" - yet.
FACT 3: The trinity is not now nor has it ever been a part of the Hebrew monotheistic faith or the gospel message and teachings of Yahshua Messiah. The trinity cannot be remotely considered as revealed truth in either the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) or the New Testament. In fact, the trinity doctrine is nothing more than a combination of Greek philosophy, Gnosticism and pagan polytheism spawned by corrupted men long after the apostolic age.
What Yahweh says about any person or group that worships "other" gods than Him should be cause enough for any person who believes in the Trinity doctrine to re-examine what they have been taught.
Yahweh warned His people not to "imitate the abominations" of other nations; saying that anyone who does so will be "an abomination" to Him. How much more sever judgement will Yahweh place on those who imitate the Trinity doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church?
If you are a Christian that grew up in an organized "church" it is likely you were taught from an early age the very basics about the trinity doctrine; that "God" was actually a combination of three "persons" who are identified as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. And you were probably told that these three "persons" together made up the "one" God of the bible. It's almost a given that you didn't understand how that all worked, but because it was a part of your family's religion and the trinity didn't really get talked about much in church, you just accepted it and didn't give it much thought.
However, it's almost certain that because those trinity basics were all you were ever taught in church or at home you never really understood exactly what the trinity was; and it's almost a guarantee that you were never taught any history behind how the trinity became such a prominent "Christian" doctrine. And there's a really good reason for that; because every theologian and biblical historian who has studied the trinity openly admits somewhere in their scholarly works that the trinity is incomprehensible, illogical and never actually mentioned or alluded to in the bible. Sadly, for the cause of truth, that doesn't stop Christian theologians, Christian college and seminary professors, pastors, priests, missionaries, Sunday school teachers and parents from teaching and defending the trinity doctrine as "biblical' fact.
If you currently believe in the trinity simply because that's what you were taught, I challenge you to set aside all your preconceived ideas about the trinity doctrine and use your God-given ability for logic and reason to take a closer look at this doctrine. Be confident in your study and have faith that the Holy Spirit will "guide you into all truth." And always remember that Yahweh is not a "God of confusion" and we are promised that we can know and understand even the "deep things of God" as we have been given the "spirit which is from God" and also the very "mind of Christ."
But to us, God revealed them (God's wisdom and mystery) through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. For who among men knows the things of a man, except the spirit of the man, which is in him? Even so, no one knows the things of God, except God’s Spirit. But we received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, that we might know the things that were freely given to us by God. (1 Corinthians 2:10-12)Be very careful to guard the truth revealed to you by the Holy Spirit in this matter. There will be those within the "church" who will most certainly judge you, according to that truth, as being led-astray. But stand firm in your faith and discernment of the truth revealed to you by the very Spirit of your Father in Heaven who lives in you.
But he who is spiritual discerns all things, and he himself is judged by no one. “For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he should instruct him?” But we have Christ’s mind. (1 Corinthians 2:15-16)Many blessings to you on your journey and search for all truth.*
*WARNING: Unfortunately, because almost every bible commentary, research study, reference book and website resource are authored or curated by trinitarian doctrine apologists,the materials and data from those sources will be slanted toward the trinity as being a legitimate biblical doctrine. Fortunately, there are now many "unbiased" resources available for those who are searching for the truth in all things.
I encourage you to read the following two books and also to use the reference links below and in the side column that use sound arguments of scripture and history to refute trinitarian arguments. There is also a link to my other website that has some excellent posts and lots more informative links about this and other false teachings of traditions and doctrines of most Christian churches.
"Promises of salvation are expressly made to all who embrace the gospel as it is defined by Christ and the Apostles. But no promise is made to the Trinitarian as such. There is no scripture which asserts that whosoever believes in the Trinity, or in the two natures, or in the Son's equality with the Father ... shall be saved. Nor does any scripture assert that whosoever believeth not these doctrines shall be damned. But if no promise is made to him who embraces the gospel as it is defined by Trinitarians, and no threatening against him who does not embrace it as thus defined, is not this sufficient evidence that their definitions are not correct?
All who believe on Jesus Christ, as the Son of God, have assurance from Christ himself, of everlasting life. All who do not believe Jesus to be the Son of God, are assured, by the same authority, that they shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on them.
What, then, does the true believer gain by admitting the doctrine of the Trinity? If it does not secure to him a single promise, nor shield him from a single threatening, then what use can it possibly be to him? It cannot make one hair either white or black."
So is there a benefit to believing in the trinity? None whatsoever!
Is there condemnation for believing in the trinity? Scripture strongly indicates there is.
Knowing this, the most important question you must honestly ask yourself is this:
WHY DO I BELIEVE THE TRINITY DOCTRINE?
"Early Christianity was theologically diverse, although as time went on a “catholic” movement, a bishop-led, developing organization which, at least from the late second century, claimed to be the true successors of Jesus' apostles, became increasingly dominant, out-competing many gnostic and quasi-Jewish groups. Still, confining our attention to what scholars now call this “catholic” or “proto-orthodox” Christianity, it contained divergent views about the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. No theologian in the first three Christian centuries was a trinitarian in the sense of a believing that the one God is tripersonal, containing equally divine “persons”, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The terms we translate as “Trinity” (Latin: trinitas, Greek: trias) seem to have come into use only in the last two decades of the second century; but such usage doesn't reflect trinitarian belief. These late second and third century authors use such terms not to refer to the one God, but rather to refer to the plurality of the one God, together with his Son (on Word) and his Spirit. They profess a “trinity”, triad or threesome, but not a triune or tripersonal God. Nor did they consider these to be equally divine. A common strategy for defending monotheism in this period is to emphasize the unique divinity of the Father." (From "Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy") Thus Origen (ca. 186-255),
The God and Father, who holds the universe together, is superior to every being that exists, for he imparts to each one from his own existence that which each one is; the Son, being less than the Father, is superior to rational creatures alone (for he is second to the Father); the Holy Spirit is still less, and dwells within the saints alone. So that in this way the power of the Father is greater than that of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and that of the Son is more than that of the Holy Spirit... (Origen, First, 33-4 [I.3])
GOD IS NOT A MAN, that he should lie, nor the son of man, that he should repent. (Numbers 23:19)
"...for I am God, and NOT man; the Holy One among you..." (Hosea 11:9)
Just as it is impossible for Yahweh to die, lie, be unjust or be anything else but God, it is also impossible for Yahweh to transform Himself, in part or whole, into a human being. Simply put, Yahweh can't become a human any more than a human can become Yahweh (God). Yahweh is THE ONE TRUE GOD and Yahshua Messiah is a human being. (Romans 1:1-4, 5:15)
In the days of His flesh, He offered up both prayers and supplications with loud crying and tears to the One able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His piety. (Heb. 5:7)
Those who are in the flesh can not please God. (Romans 8:8)
Yahshua – the man - was born, ate, drank, slept, grew, learned, and was susceptible to death. He was not self-sufficient or self-existent; as every other human being Yahshua needed specific things to sustain his mortal existence. If he was in fact the God of Israel he would rely on nothing to sustain His existence. The fact is, if Yahweh became a man He would necessarily have to relinquish many divine attributes; which would render Him no longer God. It is important to understand that God does not and cannot change who He is; Yahweh cannot be both God and not God. It is also important to understand that Yahweh is to be SERVED – He is not anyone’s servant, nor would His divinity allow Him to “humble” himself in that respect. If that were the case, He would cease to be the God of ALL creation. Yahshua said unequivocally that he "served" his Father - Yahweh, which made him, as all humans are, subordinate to and less than God.
In Revelation John wrote that Yahshua said: “I was dead, and behold, I am alive forever more. Amen. I have the keys of Death and of Hades..”(Revelation 1:18)
So who is speaking to John here? Is it the "fully God" Yahshua or the "fully human" Yahshua? You have to answer this question - it can't be side-stepped.
Will trinitarians answer that the person John is speaking with is the fully human Yahshua because they admit that "God" can't die? No. They must apply this answer as a yet-to-be discovered "mystery." So what of their fully God and fully human Messiah? Unfortunately, if you believe that Yahshua Messiah is both fully God and fully human you have marched off the map! GOD CANNOT DIE! The person John was speaking with was the human Yahshua who had been killed and resurrected by Yahweh.
Revelation 1:18 should be the most inspirational passage to those who call on the name of Yahweh for salvation. Yahshua is telling John that he was dead and now is alive forever more. How beyond excited John must have been to see his beloved friend again alive! To see Yahshua in person and to hear him say "I am alive!"
2. Yahweh is the essence of the worship and Yahshua gives our example.If John was aware that his friend was also "fully God" then he would expected that he would survive death - simply because John knew that God can't die. But the person speaking to John specifically tells him that he was dead. That person can't possibly be both God and man!
God is the object of worship and was the object of Jesus’ worship. Had Jesus been God, he would have told people to worship him. But he did the exact opposite as in (Matthew 15:9).3. The Trinity is the epitome of confusion.
Then Jesus said to him, “Get behind me, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and you shall serve him only/alone.’” (Matthew 4:10) Jesus was an “offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma” [worship]. (Ephesians 5:2) Yahshua said these things, and lifting up his eyes to heaven, he said, “Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may also glorify you; 2 even as you gave him authority over all flesh, he will give eternal life to all whom you have given him. 3 This is eternal life, that they should know YOU, the ONE (monos) true God, and him whom you sent, Yahshua Messiah. 4 I glorified you on the earth. I have accomplished the work which you have given me to do. (John 17:1-4) It is clear by this statement that Yahshua knew that his Father was the ONE and ONLY true object of worship!
God is not the author of confusion.The trinity can’t be explained to an adult, let alone a child. How would a child ever understand the trinity? How did the “jailer” and his “whole household” (including his children) understand and believe to be saved if the trinity is essential to salvation?Is the resurrected Jesus still fully God and man? If so, doesn’t he represent a duality of person-hood within the trinity? And wouldn’t it be more correct to call the Godhead a Quadrinity instead of Trinity?
Respected biblical scholars agree that the trinity is incomprehensible. (Read their works on the subject) But followers Yahshua Messiah have been promised that we can know and understand even the "deep things of God" as we have been given the "spirit which is from God" and also the very "mind of Christ."
10 But to us, God revealed them through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. 11 For who among men knows the things of a man, except the spirit of the man, which is in him? Even so, no one knows the things of God, except God’s Spirit. 12 But we received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, that we might know the things that were freely given to us by God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual things... 15 But he who is spiritual discerns all things, and he himself is judged by no one. 16 “For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he should instruct him?” But we have Christ’s mind. (1 Corinthians 2) Also read John 17 and see what Yahshua Messiah prayed to his Father about our "understanding" of the deep spiritual things of Yahweh.
"So why do even those who believe in the Trinity find it so difficult to explain?
The answer is simple yet shocking: It’s because the Bible does not teach it! One cannot prove or explain something from the Bible that is not biblical! The Bible is our only reliable source of divine revelation. And the truth, as we will see, is that the Trinity concept simply is not part of God’s revelation to humankind."
“Yahweh your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him.” 17 Yahweh said to me, “They have well said that which they have spoken. 18 I will raise them up a prophet from among their brothers, like you. I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I shall command him. 19 It shall happen that whoever will not listen to my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.Then a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My Son, My Chosen One; listen to Him!” (Luke 9:35, Mark 9:7, Matthew 17:5)16 For we did not follow cleverly devised tales when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty. 17 For when He received honor and glory from God the Father, such an utterance as this was made to Him by the Majestic Glory, “This is My beloved Son with whom I am well-pleased”— 18 and we ourselves heard this utterance made from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain. 19 So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. 20 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, 21 for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.(1 Peter 1:16-21)
4 And no one takes the honor to himself, but receives it when he is called by God, even as Aaron was. 5 So also Christ did not glorify Himself so as to become a high priest, but He who said to Him, “You are My Son, Today I have begotten You”; 6 just as He says also in another passage,“You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek.” 7 In the days of His flesh, He offered up both prayers and supplications with loud crying and tears to the One able to save Him [e]from death, and He [f]was heard because of His piety. 8 Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered. 9 And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation, 10 being designated by God as a high priest according to the order of Melchizedek.
As for Yahshua the “mere” man, it has so pleased Yahweh the Most High God to exalt him above the heavens and to seat him at His right hand, making Jesus second only to Yahweh in the universe. Yahshua is thus “crowned with glory and honor”. But how can the trinitarian Jesus be crowned with—conferred with—glory and honor when as God he has always had this glory from all eternity? (See also 1 Cor. 15:25f)
“For I, Yahweh, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed.”
Jesus was subject to God's created laws. He was born, drank, ate, slept, prayed, died and was resurrected by God.
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
“You are My Son, Today I have begotten you” (Psalms 2:7, Acts 13:33, Hebrews 5:5)
1 Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain? 2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against Yahweh and against his Anointed (Yahshua) saying, 3 “Let us burst their bonds apart and cast away their cords from us.” 4 He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision. 5 Then he will speak to them in his wrath, and terrify them in his fury, saying, 6 “As for me, I have set my King on Zion, my holy hill.” 7 I will tell of the decree: Yahweh said to me, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you. 8 Ask of me, and I will make the nations your heritage, and the ends of the earth your possession. 9 You shall break them with a rod of iron and dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.” 10 Now therefore, O kings, be wise; be warned, O rulers of the earth. 11 Serve Yahweh with fear, and rejoice with trembling. 12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, for his wrath is quickly kindled. Blessed are all who take refuge in him.
As Jesus is the “image/likeness” of God, and the first commandment tells us not to have ANY God’s other than the one God of Israel -by God’s own words, Jesus cannot be God! An image of "something," no matter how exact that image is, is not the "something." If that were the case, then Adam, being made in the "image" of God, is by the trinitarian definition, the one in the same God.
Expounding on the first commandment; Moses wrote: You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness*of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God…”
*When the man called Jesus “good,” Jesus denied being “good,” and told the man that ONLY God was “good.” He essentially told the man that he was NOT God and to be careful NOT to make him (Jesus) an Idol. We can be assured that Jesus was familiar with Exodus 20:1-6)
Just who was Yahshua's "God?" He clearly tells us many times that his Father IS HIS GOD! Are we to believe that Yahshua believed his father Yahweh was a 3-person God?
28 One of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, “What commandment is the foremost of all?” 29 Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is OUR God. Yahweh is one; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ Also: Mark 15:34, John 20:17, Luke 18:19, Eph 1:3, 1Cor 11:3
“As a preliminary point, we note that Yahweh is our Father: “You, O Yahweh, are our Father” (Isaiah 63:16; also 64:8). “Is this the way you repay Yahweh, you foolish and unwise people? Is he not your Father who created you?” (Dt.32:6; cf. Mal.2:10). But more specifically, Yahweh is also the God and Father of Yahshua Messiah: “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God” (Jn.20:17). Just three chapters earlier, Yahshua calls his Father “the only true God” (John 17:3), an exclusive identification that aligns perfectly with Isaiah 45:5: “I am Yahweh, and there is no other, besides me there is no God”. Hence Yahweh is the God and Father of Yahshua Messiah.” (From “The Only Perfect Man” – Eric H. H. Chang)
Paul knew that there was only one God of Israel and that Yahweh was in fact God of ALL creation - including His son Yahshua. He wrote to the Ephesian Ekklesia and prayed: "that the God of our Lord Yahshua Messiah, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him;" Did you get that? The same God Paul worshiped was also the God of Yahshua. Paul also made it clear when he said, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." 1 Timothy 2:5
15 The seventh angel sounded, and great voices in heaven followed, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the Kingdom of our Lord God Yahweh, and of his Messiah. He will reign forever and ever!” Revelation 11:15 Yahshua is Yahweh's Messiah - THE ANOINTED ONE of Yahweh.
[John 17:3] – Salvation depends on one knowing the ONE true God and Jesus Christ whom You (God) have sent.
[John 5:44]- How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and you do not seek the glory that is from the ONE and ONLY God?
[John 20:17] – “Jesus said unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.”
How can the Father ascend to Himself? In the above verse, Jesus not only distinguishes between himself and his Father, but he also makes it sound as though the relationship that he has with God, 'The Father,' is exactly the same relationship that all people have with G0d, who is, in fact, the Father of all.
[Matthew 19:16-17] - And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why do you call me good? There is none good but ONE, that is, God: but if you wish to enter into life, keep THE commandments. (Exodus 20: 1-6) Yahshua did not say he was "good" because he knew only his Father fit that description. He implied clearly that he is subordinate and lower than his father.
In the above verses, Jesus distinguishes between himself and God. How could he have been the 'Mighty Gd,' if he himself made a distinction between himself and God? If Jesus knew that only God is good, and that he should not be called good, then Jesus knew that Jesus was not God.
[Mark 13:32] - “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." If Jesus was God he would know - and so would the Holy Spirit.
[Matthew 20:23] - “You will indeed drink from my cup, but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared by my Father.” If Jesus was God he would have authority to make grant this request. This shows that Yahshua is subordinate to his Father - Yahweh.
[John 17:3] - "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only (monos) true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." If Jesus was God he would have simply said, "if they had known me - the one true God."
[Matthew 27:46] - And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, 'Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?' that is, 'My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?' Who is Jesus calling out to and how can God forsake Himself?
[Matthew 26:39] - And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, "My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will."
Jesus calls the One to whom he prayed his Father, so how can Jesus be 'the Everlasting Father,' if he called another his Father? How could Jesus be the Father if the will of Jesus is not the same as the will of the Father? This denies the very idea of the trinity.
[1 Cor. 15:25-28] "For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy that will be abolished is death. For, “He put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when he says, “All things are put in subjection”, it is evident that he is excepted who subjected all things to him. When all things have been subjected to Him, then the Son will also himself BE SUBJECTED TO HIM [Yahweh] who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all." When the "last enemy" (Death) has been abolished, then Yahweh will again be over ALL THINGS - including His son - the Messiah.
“Jesus therefore answered them, “My teaching is NOT mine, but his who sent me.”
If Yahshua were co-equal with his Father – and fully God, his teaching would be “equal” to the fathers and there could not possibly be a distinction between the two “persons.” So why would Yahshua say that his teaching is NOT his, but his Fathers?
If Yahshua was co-equally divine with the other two divine persons of the trinity - God the Father and God the Holy Spirit, when he said that he could only speak and act as directed by his Father then he couldn't possibly be co-equal with God the Father. Notwithstanding Yahshua's relationship to God the Holy Spirit, this relationship dynamic, that Yahshua personally verified as a fact, necessarily makes him subordinate to the Father, which unequivocally means that Yahshua is NOT co-equally divine. If trinitarians insist that Yahshua is divine, then he is a lessor divine person than God the Father. He obviously isn't co-equally divine and by his own words is subordinate to God the Father. Again, it isn't clear where God the Holy Spirit fits into the trinitarian dynamic.
16. Jesus said that he was the Messiah – NOT God. (Mark 14:61-62)
17. Yahweh is the “Father” of ALL – Including the Father of Yahshua. Yahshua clearly said so... (John 20:17)
18. Yahshua was NOT a schizophrenic.
If Jesus is fully God and fully man then his prayer in the garden before he was taken and crucified is the best example of a schizophrenic episode. Think about the dialog Jesus is having with someone who he is supposedly co-equal with? And not only co-equal with, but if you believe the trinity, also the same "essence" of being. Why would Jesus be under such agony and distress if he holds the same power, knows all things and even has the identical will as the co-equal God he is praying to? Seriously, if Jesus and the God he is praying to are EQUAL in every respect, it makes no sense that Jesus would be in agony and distress because he knows EVERYTHING! Please take these facts into consideration and read the accounts in Luke 22 and Matthew 26. If Jesus is just a human then his prayer makes perfect sense. But if Jesus is "God" as trinitarians believe, it calls into question not only his sanity, but the entire plan of a multi-person god.
In fact, if his disciples were Trinitarians then they would have always had to discern exactly which Jesus was speaking. The same goes for Trinitarians today; they have to discern for themselves which Jesus spoke which words. The problem then comes when Jesus says that ALL his words and actions come from his Father. So what are we to do with that statement?
If Jesus were co-equal and of the same essence as the God of Israel then why would he make the following statement saying that his Father was the "only true God?"
Jesus said these things, and lifting up his eyes to heaven, he said, “Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may also glorify you; even as you gave him authority over all flesh, he will give eternal life to all whom you have given him. This is eternal life, that they should know you (Yahweh), the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ. I glorified you on the earth." (John 17:1-4)
19. God has many “sons” – and daughters. (Psalm 2:7, 82:6)
20. God cannot be tempted. (James 1:11)
21. God can have no part in sin – flesh.
22. God knows all things.
23. God holds supreme authority over every created thing. There is NO “co-equality” between Yahweh and Yahshua!
24. Jesus is, and always has been, subordinate to God (1 Cor. 15)
Jesus will one day “hand-over” the kingdom of God and Father (1 Cor. 15)
I can of myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous; because I don’t seek my own will, but the will of my Father who sent me. (John 5:30)
25. God’s “word” is the “only” true word. (Deut. 18:15-18)
Jesus only spoke the words God gave him to speak; he NEVER spoke for himself. (John 12:49-50)
26. Yahweh cannot die (Immortal) - Yahshua died (Mortal) (Psalms 90:2. Malachi 3:6, Revelation 1:4, 17, 2:8))
Was God an “offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma” to himself. (Ephesians 5:2
"I can of myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous; because I don’t seek my own will, but the will of my Father who sent me." (John 5:30)
In 2 Corinthians 13:4 the apostle Paul clearly states that it was due to his "weakness" that Yahshua suffered and died and that it is by the power of Yahweh that he now lives.
"For he was crucified through weakness, yet he lives through the power of God."
29. God is NOT an “heir” of anything (Heb. 1:1-4)
30. Jesus “received HONOR and GLORY FROM God the Father:” (1 Peter 1:17, Acts 3:13, John 8:54)
31. Jesus was created lower than angels – for a while. (Hebrews 2:7, 9)
32. Jesus was a “mediator” “between” God and man. (1 Timothy 2:5)
33. God needs favor from no one. (Luke 2:52)
"And Jesus INCREASED in wisdom and stature, and in favor WITH GOD and men."
Before his resurrection Jesus was just a man and could be seen by anyone. (Romans 5:19 - and many other places) Where was Yahshua when Yahweh interacted with Moses and passed by him on the mountain?
“If I testify about myself, my witness is not valid. It is another who testifies about me.
I know that the testimony which he testifies about me is true."
36. God has one will - His good and perfect will.
37. God gave Jesus the Holy Spirit. (Matthew 3:16-17)
38. God “set His seal” upon Jesus (John 6:27)
39. God is the Glory
40. God is deserving of all glory and honor.
41. God is greatest of all.
42. God can do all things.
Jesus’ power and knowledge was limited by God (Mark 8:22-26, Mark 6:5) If the trinity doctrine says that all three persons of the godhead are co-equal then the Father would not have any greater power than Jesus. In fact, if the trinity doctrine is true, Jesus could do anything the Father does, but scripture clearly contradicts the trinity doctrine.
44. There is no God but One.
45. God is good.
46. God has moral superiority.
47. God commands obedience.
48. God fears nothing.
49. God taught & commanded Jesus
50. God made Jesus both ‘lord’ and “messiah” (Acts 2:36, 5:31, Romans 14:9)
51. God does NOT have to “overcome” anything.
Jesus said that he “overcame,” just as we also, if we want to have eternal life, must overcome. (Revelation 3:21)
53. Jesus’ God is also our God.
54. Jesus’ Apostles/disciples did not believe he was God. (Ephesians 1:17)
…that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him. Acts 2:22, Matthew 12:18, Acts 5:29-30
Paul knew that there was only one God of Israel and that Yahweh was in fact God of ALL creation - including His son Yahshua. He wrote to the Ephesian Ekklesia and prayed: "that the God of our Lord Yahshua Messiah, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him;" Did you get that? The same God Paul worshiped was also the God of Yahshua.
Paul also was very clear about the distinction between Yahweh and Yehshua in his first letter to the Corinthians:
Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that no idol is anything in the world, and that there is no other God but one. For though there are things that are called “gods”, whether in the heavens or on earth; as there are many “gods” and many “lords”; yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we live through him. (vs 4-6)
Paul does not depict Jesus as co-equal with God, but instead says that God is of superior rank to Jesus:“But I would have you know that the head of every man in Christ and the head of the woman is the man and the head of Christ is God” (1 Corinthians 11:3).Paul puts a considerable strain on “trinitarianism” when he clearly distinguishes between God and Jesus by saying:“For there is one God and one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus.” (1 Timothy 2:5)Paul did not indicate any change in the nature of God as he wrote:“A mediator is not a mediator of one, BUT GOD IS ONE.” (Galatians 3:20)The disciples viewed Jesus as the “one mediator between God and men,” not as God himself, but two separate beings.While Jesus is often called the Son of God, nobody in the first century ever thought of him as being a deity. Paul confirms this relationship as he wrote:“Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and the God of all comfort.” (2Corinthians 1:3)The idea of a trinity is not even present in the Church of Jerusalem when Peter, leader of the church wrote:“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Peter 1:3)
If Yahshua had made it clear to his disciples that he was in fact God, then it would stand to reason that they, in their teachings and writings, would have made every effort to convey that miraculous message to the world - that the God of Israel had incarnated into a man. But they didn't - WHY? Simply because Yahshua never said he was God and his disciples understood that he was the son of Yahweh - not Yahweh.
56. Jesus was God’s servant – God’s emissary - not God’s equal
57. Jesus was sent by God and was given authority by God (John 3:34-36)
58. Jesus regarded himself and God as two separate and distinct persons. (Gospel of John testifies to this)
‘I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father.’ (John 8:17-18:)
‘Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me.’ (John 14:1)
“If you have seen ME you have seen the FATHER also.”Thomas “gets it” when he “sees and believes” – “Thomas answered, My Lord and my God.”
If Jesus was God, He would have not have regarded God’s testimony as separate from his own.
60. God gave Jesus “all authority in heaven and earth.” (Yahweh as the only exception) (Matthew 28:18)
The point is that Yahweh “gave” something to Yahshua that he did NOT already possess. If Jesus is eternally and equally God, then he would logically already possess “all authority.”
In Matthew 12:30-32 Yahshua stated that the Holy Spirit was somehow more "superior or important" than he was.
30 “He who is not with me is against me, and he who doesn’t gather with me, scatters. 31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. 32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is to come.
Yahshua said that we can say what we want about him and can be forgiven, but not about the Holy Spirit. Why?
62. Jesus’ teachings were from God - not from himself
‘So Jesus answered them and said, ‘My teaching is not mine, but His who sent me.’ (John 7:16) Jesus could not have said this if he were God because the doctrine would have been his.
I can of myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous; because I don’t seek my own will, but the will of my Father who sent me. (John 5:30)
64. Jesus admitted that he only lived (exists) because of God
65. Jesus implied that the Holy Spirit – as God’s power - held more “clout” than he did. (Matthew 12:32, Luke 12:10)
66. Jesus’ disciples prayed to God – the same God Jesus told them to pray to.
‘…of Your holy servant Jesus.’ (Acts 4:30)
Yahshua here asks the Pharisees, "Haven’t you read..." He was pointing to the Hebrew Scriptures as evidence to the Pharisees regarding who the "creator" was. Why didn't he simply tell them that he was the creator - and that all things were created through him? He didn't tell them that because Yahshua knows that there is ONE CREATOR - Yahweh! This verse puts to rest any idea that Colossians 1:6 & John 1:3 are literally speaking about Yahshua Messiah being the "creator."
68. God has never been seen by man - if anyone did see Him they would die. (Timothy 6:16)
69. God cannot be BORN – He is eternal and has no beginning.
At what point did the God part of Jesus become self-aware? Where was the Jesus/God before that point?
70. God sat Jesus at His “right hand.” (Heb. 1:13)
71. Jesus said he was the ONLY way/path – but God is the final destination!
72. Jesus prayed to God
Did Jesus/God pray to himself? Was “God the Father” the “senior” “person” of the 3 persons?
74. Jesus said He would ascend to the Father after His resurrection.
75. Jesus is the “mediator” between God and Man. (1 Timothy 2:5)
76. Paul explains the importance of understanding Jesus’ part in God’s plan for mankind. (Ephesians 1)
77. The Bible says twice that Jesus was “accused” of being God, but Jesus never specifically said “I am God.”
78. The Bible says God had many ‘sons’
79. The Apostles never took opportunity to explain that Yahshua was a God-man.
In Acts 14 Paul and Barnabas were called god-men by the people who had witnessed a healing miracle. The people said, “The gods have come down to us in the likeness of men!” The people were preparing to offer sacrifices to them and Paul and Barnabas both "tore their clothes, and sprang into the multitude, crying out, Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and bring you good news, that you should turn from these vain things to the living God." So what were the "vain things" Paul and Barnabas told the people to turn from? The "vain things" was believing that gods can come down and live as god-men! However, instead of taking advantage of that "teachable moment" and explaining to them that the true God of Israel had in fact come down and became a God-man, Paul and Barnabas simply told the people that god-men were not real and that they should turn to the "living God" Yahweh.
80. Yahweh does not have a "God," but Yahshua's God is Yahweh - also "our" God. (John 20:17) It doesn't get any clearer than this.
Jesus said to her, “Don’t hold me, for I haven’t yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brothers, and tell them, ‘I am ascending to MY Father and YOUR Father, to MY God and YOUR God.’”
Q1. Why can’t (don’t) Trinitarians “understand” the teachings of Jesus about his relationship to his Father?